Largeseed-eatingbirdshavealwaysplayedanessentialpartinthe dispersal of austral plant seeds and, by extension, the ecology of austral habitats. Wood et al .( 2012) recently documented fossil evidenceoftheforagingecologyofthenowextinct flightlessMoa (Megalapteryx didinus), which was widespread across New Zealand’s upland areas some 6000 years ago. These fascinating datagiveaninsightintonotonlythedietoftheseancientbirds,but also the changes that have taken place in the vegetation structure of this habitat over time. Using ancient DNA and radiocarbon dating, the authors reconstruct thediet from coprolites, including evidence of their possible role in seed dispersal. In this issue of Emu – Austral Ornithology, two papers deal with the fundamental role of other large ratites in determining seed dispersal and ecology on two very different continents. The generalistdietaryhabitsoftheEmu(Dromaiusnovaehollandiae) are well recognised, but its potential as a seed disperser is much less understood. Dunstan et al .( 2013) collected scats from wild Emusandassessednotonlytheseedsthattheycontained,buttheir germinationpotential.Withtheirlargebodysizes,largegutswith long retention times and the long distances they can travel, Emus have considerable potential for long-distance seed dispersal. However, the authors found that few seeds from the scats germinated during their experimental trials, and so the true role of Emus as seed dispersers remains unclear. In Brazil, the Greater Rhea (Rhea americana) fills the ecologicalnicheoflargefrugivorousratite.SchetinideAzevedoetal. (2013) compared the germination potential of seeds commonly found in the diet of Rheas, from common plants of the Brazilian savannah, either with or without gut passage. Interestingly, they found that whereas seeds from some species clearly suffered detrimental effects from gut passage in Rheas, other species benefited through increased germination rates after gut passage, probably due to the mechanically abrasive effects of digestion. However, one of the species benefiting from gut passage was an invasiveplantspecies,demonstratingthepotentiallycomplicated effects that seed dispersers may have within their own ecological niches. These papers raise at least as many questions as they answer. They highlight not only the fundamental role that large seedeating birds may have in ecological processes, but also how little we understand about how these processes function. Although both the Rhea and the Emu are currently of little conservation concern, the Moa was not so lucky. Hopefully we can gain more insight into the role of seed-eating birds in maintaining biodiversity levels before we have to rely on fossil evidence.