Stephen Wiseman has drawn attention to the gap between learning experiments with school children and experiments with rats and pigeons. However, educational psychologists such as Burt and Wiseman give little indication how to derive a comprehensive learning theory which would apply directly to schoolchildren in class. Such a theory is more likely to be formulated through narrowing the gaps between different areas of study than through widening them and a type of animal experiment with dogs is suggested which might be more acceptable than experiments with rats and pigeons, to educational psychologists.