On the long journey between the conversations and interviews that Pavel Medvešček had in the field and the book "Iz nevidne strani neba (From the invisible side of the sky)", first of all there were random sketches that Medvešček made immediately after the conversation at home. An example of such clean writings are the notebooks of conversations with Javor and Jerin. Decades later retyping followed. First with a typewriter, then with a computer. At the beginning of 2006 Medvešček decided to publish part of the conversations, which he promised not to reveal before 2007. On 8 March 2006, he sent the first 19 pages to Andrej Pleterski at the Institue of Archaeoloy in Ljubljana (Slovenia). In the following years, Medvešček added content-related records from his manuscript material and by the end of 2014, the book gained the volume in which it was published in 2015. A special publication of the first 81 pages of the draft book and the two volumes of talks seems important because it shows how Medvešček searched for texts in his archive, how he took care of explaining obscure details. Furthermore, in these texts there is not yet the unification of terms that was done for the book (the description of the game Trk at the end of the conversations with Javor, or the narrative of the meetings at the summit Matajur).